09/13/08 88 W - + 9 - 9 Cumberland County Proposes Fire Station Funding Overhaul


The Fayetteville Observer reported Friday on a proposal to overhaul fire stations funding. The county fire chiefs agreed Thursday to pursue a special public safety sales tax. This would fund all city and county fire stations, and would replace fire district property taxes. The goal is a more equitable distribution of tax dollars, e.g. departments in poorer areas receive the same share as those in richer regions. The plan is expected to go before county commissioners in about two months.





Don’t do it!!! It will screw your system up. Before long you won’t be able to get anything without the county saying ok.
Mike - 09/13/08 - 09:41

Cumberland County is probally one of the most organized counties that I have been through. They do have a standardized appratus numbering system, response plans with each other in the county plus the City of Fayetteville and Pope AFB/ Ft. Bragg FD’s. I am all for the FD’s in the rural areas as Godwin/Falcon, Bethany, etc… being able to receive the money and services as the rest of the county
Michael - 09/13/08 - 12:16

Yeah but it really helped screw up WC. Now depts can even hire people because they don’t have the money that they would have had.
Mike - 09/13/08 - 21:32

In Wake, some see it as screwed up, but several departments are getting money they couldn’t have dreamed of in the old system. I guess the same would be true for Cumberland County. Just depends on what side of the coin you’re on.
Screwed Up? - 09/15/08 - 08:09

Bottom line, county-wide tax without county-wide department is gonna be a mess. Regardless of what anyone may try to say, people that have NO clue about the public safety world will be appropriating funds. Then we all know how that goes…
Squirt - 09/15/08 - 16:27

It’s very interesting, but their intent is probably the best alternative for a rapidly developing county. If the process is properly planned from the start, with all actual or otherwise perceived aspects clearly laid out and certain responsibilities established, the change will be equitable for all. Wake may be viewed as an example of “what not to do” by some, however much of what has happened here since 1999 has been very positive and productive, although very often reactive in nature. No doubt, it has definitely been a learning experience for all involved. If Wake’s progress and pitfalls are strategically evaluated, a productive transition can occur for Cumberland. In my opinion, a clear implementation plan, open communications with all involved, a strong leadership element, and standardized FD contracts will yield the greatest initial success. As with Wake, they too will have to adapt as they progress (to some degree).
A.Rich - 09/15/08 - 23:09

Someone is going to keep screwing around and end up in court. Wake County and the fire commission cant keep holding back funds and in essence, restricting hiring. Staffing is a major issue, the county is growing, with about 20 new kids enrolling in each of our schools every week.

Why isnt the fire service growing with the county??!!
People who live in the county are paying as much and in some instances more for fire protection and getting lesser of a service. I honestly got tired of it, and after 25+ years; recently moved out of wake county. I’m sick of watching these clowns waste our tax dollars.
J.Boggs (Email) - 09/17/08 - 11:34

Well I see that no one cares to beat a dead horse, but I challenge each of you fire service professionals to call your local school principal and ask how many new students enroll each week, thus depicting the weekly population increase in wake county. and I challenge everyone who reads this blog to avoid the fire commission and email or write directly to the county commissioner(s) and ask why the population increase has not been commensurate with the fire protection in this county. I also challenge the media that monitors this blog to research the fire tax collection and distribution of wake county, and compare it with the disbursment of funds to each department. This is public record and if you encounter any “fuz”, cite the sunshine laws.
J.Boggs (Email) - 09/18/08 - 23:04

Page 251 of this FY2009 county budget document shows the appropriations for each fire tax district appropriation by department: http://www.wakegov.com/NR/rdonlyres/1022..
Legeros - 09/19/08 - 04:55

Mike is there anywhere on there to show how much was actually collected? I looked last night and couldnt find anywhere. I guess the next step is to call the WC revenue department.
very interested - 09/19/08 - 08:34

Its on the page he posted
JB - 09/19/08 - 08:39



  
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