02/22/08 32 W, 1 I - + 13 - 10 One Tanker, Foamed

Here's a picture from WRAL of that gas tanker in Johnston County that overturned. Chad Flowers snapped same. They flip one out there, what, every four months? Every eight?

Who still carries class B foam on their 1st out Engines? Anyone? It seems everyone is class A or cafs, not saying it’s good or bad, just curious.
wcff - 02/22/08 - 16:12

Johnston County’s foam unit is housed at Selma Fire Department, which responded to the spill
Fv28 - 02/22/08 - 17:19

If you look at all of the roads around the Selma Oil Terminal it easily explains why they respond to so many of them. Buffalo Rd, Old Beulah Rd, NC 96, NC 39, and all of the connecting roads are potentially treacherous, two-lane, rural roads. True, a lot of them go out to US 70, then to I-95. But a large number utilize US 301, with access via Old Beulah to Jerry Rd. And still more work their way around to NC 210.

It just goes to prove that you have to be ready for the hazards in your response area, and not just what is BUILT in your area. It includes what TRAVELS through your area.
DJ (Email) - 02/23/08 - 10:44

DJ, well put. The same discussion could be made for Raleigh, with the railyards and the industrial areas that we have, or of Apex with the LP facility right by the highway. Maybe this would be a good discussion to start on — exactly what goes on in our areas, and how much we really know about what goes through them…
EMS 7597 (Email) - 02/23/08 - 16:19

Oh yes. Pay attention to the trucks riding the back roads here in Wake County. There is a lot of #1203 placcards in 8,000 gallon capacities on some of these back roads. Drivers ost, taking short cuts, going to see a girlfriend, etc. And they drive like they are on I-95 still.

Sit at the railroad corssing while wating for CSX or NS to pass and translate the placcards. There is some pretty wicked sh** that rolls through here.

IT also reminds me of a plane crash that happened in Georgia in the mid to late 70s or so when a Southern Airways DC9 had to land- right now. Landed on Main Street in a little place called New Hope, GA. I’ve Googled it and cannot find anything, but there was right up in Fire Engineering and Fire Chief (I think it happened before Firehouse came out).

That was an indication of “it CAN happen here”. You may not be able to prepare logistically for it, but you better have a plan in place.
DJ (Email) - 02/24/08 - 09:20


Southern Airways DC-9

April 4, 1977

En route to Atlanta. Complete engine failure during thunderstorm. 60 fatalities, it looks like. Another 21 injured (?).
Legeros - 02/24/08 - 09:25

More links: http://www.super70s.com/Super70s/Tech/Av..).asp, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ai..
Legeros - 02/24/08 - 09:26

You know, if you push the right key you never know what you might find…

From WikiPedia-

January 6, 1960 – National Airlines Flight 2511, a Douglas DC6B bound from New York to Miami, crashes near Bolivia, North Carolina, when a bomb planted on board explodes in mid-air. All 34 people on board are killed.

September 11, 1974 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 212, a DC-9, crashes on approach to Charlotte, North Carolina; 72 of 82 people on board are killed.

January 24, 1961 – A B-52 bomber suffered a fire caused by a major leak in a wing fuel cell and exploded in midair 12 miles (19 km) north of Seymour Johnson Air Force Base, Goldsboro, North Carolina. The incident released the bomber’s two Mark 39 hydrogen bombs. Five crewmen parachuted to safety, but three died—two in the aircraft and one on landing. Three of the four arming devices on one of the bombs activated, causing it to carry out many of the steps needed to arm itself, such as the charging of the firing capacitors and, critically, the deployment of a 100-foot (30 m) diameter retardation parachute. The parachute allowed the bomb to hit the ground with little damage. The fourth arming device — the pilot’s safe/arm switch — was not activated, and so the weapon did not detonate. The other bomb plunged into a muddy field at around 700 mph (300 m/s) and disintegrated. Its tail was discovered about 20 feet (6 m) down and much of the bomb recovered, including the tritium bottle and the plutonium. However, excavation was abandoned because of uncontrollable flooding by ground water, and most of the thermonuclear stage, containing uranium, was left in situ. It was estimated to lie at around 180 feet (55 m). The Air Force purchased the land and fenced it off to prevent its disturbance, and it is tested regularly for contamination, although none has so far been found. [22]
DJ (Email) - 02/24/08 - 11:29

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