05/08/10 103 W, 1 I - + 6 - 4 Warning: Do Not Stop in Roundabout

And WRAL yesterday reported that the newly installed roundabouts on Hillsborough Street and Oberlin Road are causing some confusion. What's supposed to happen? Cars enter the circle and keep moving. What's not supposed to happen? Cars enter the circle and stop. What's happening then? Crunch and crash. Key quote from a city engineer: "When people stop and you’re not expecting it, that’s when the issues occur." Issues indeed! Guess you can blame it on (a.) city planners, (b.) aggressive drivers, (c.) them northerners (including me!), or (d.) the Civil War.

(e.) People are stupid.
Paul - 05/08/10 - 08:48

I’d like to see option “c” removed. The history of round-abouts traces back to, yup, the North, New York City to be exact. Click here to find out all you want to know about round-abouts and traffic circles, INCLUDING HOW TO DRIVE IN THEM!! http://www.alaskaroundabouts.com/animati..

I like option “E” Paul, just plain stupidity, no matter if you’re a Northerner, Mid-Westerner or a Southerner.
Silver - 05/08/10 - 11:27

I always thought it was a dumb idea to put probably the first major roundabout in the area right in the traffic pattern of a university. Funny thing is the new report on expanding 64 between Apex and Cary now calls for an elevated roundabout right in front of Apex High. Should probably work on improving drivers ed before then.
Joey - 05/08/10 - 11:38

Hmm, interesting web site Silver.
You could easily argue that their before/after examples of traffic circles and roundabouts are the same thing, one is just a lot larger than the other. The principal is still the same, traffic merges from the right and goes (in the US) anti-clockwise.
Paul - 05/08/10 - 15:42

I vote to remove “c” also – these originate from up north, and my recollection of them {Boston area also} is not as negative as others have posted, except for maybe the 2-lane ones. I would think that “northerners” would know how to use them. Up north, they are called “rotarys”, and are very common, they are all over the place.
TimB - 05/08/10 - 17:26

I drove down Hillsborough Street for the first time the other day since the new “improvements.” What moron designed this? Everybody hits the brakes as soon as they enter the roundabout. Then they added a median all the way down Hillsborough Street in front of NCSU. What was already a narrow road is now even more narrow! Your tax dollars at work…
John (Email) - 05/08/10 - 19:37

I doubt the FD was consulted on this project. How much time does Engine 5 add to a response when they need to go east towards downtown using Hillsborough, since Oberlin is now one way for one block?

Do they take Park and go through the neighborhood?
harkey - 05/09/10 - 10:28

People can’t drive in General. We had to learn to drive in Europe with them…nobody in my unit seemed to have an issue. The first time I encountered the double lane traffic circle in Iraq, it threw me for a loop…but nobody should have to drive in the green zone.
Kermit - 05/09/10 - 11:27

I wonder if Engine 5 is actually going to benefit from the change. Instead of waiting at Oberlin and Hillsborough (old), they’ll have free-flowing traffic with no stoplights (new). They travel maybe two additional blocks in distance, however.
Legeros - 05/09/10 - 11:29

I am also a transplanted yankee from north NJ…we had roundabouts also and after many serious accidents over the years , the highway was redesigned to eliminate those roundabouts and intersections and lights were installed
been there - 05/13/10 - 16:32

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