10/02/10 64 W, 1 I - + 7 - 7 Private Jet Skids Into Croatan Sound

That's the headline from WRAL, and showing this photo of a private jet that skidded off the runway at Dare County Regional Airport in Manteo on Friday morning. Seven souls aboard. Five transported with non life-threatening injuries. Boat carrying firefighters is labeled RIFD. What is Roanoake Island Fire Department? Good photo! Click to slightly enlarge:

WRAL Photo

RWECC - 10/02/10 - 11:27

Full Turnout Gear for a water rescue??? Odd, but maybe the way they do things.
7721 - 10/02/10 - 14:43

Thought that was a no-no…
Silver - 10/02/10 - 14:58

That is a big NO-NO! If they were to fall in, they’d be done! And no PFD’s! I’m not bashing; just want people to think and not make the same mistake!
Rhodes - 10/02/10 - 17:44

Yeah, thought that was pretty much the first thing they taught you in Water Rescue Awareness class.
Silver - 10/02/10 - 22:19

You know, sometimes certain things tend to ‘stick’ with us for a long time, even to the point of overshadowing ‘new’ stuff. I remember a video from back in the late 70s or early 80s that said wearing turnout gear when forced into a water rescue situation without ‘proper preparation’, i.e. a real water rescue operation, was THE thing to do. There was even a short piece that highlighted a firefighter, in full gear, ‘falling off’ of a boat into the water.

Of course, it might have worked better then since turnout gear was not ‘breathable’...

I do think, in the absence of a readily available, fully equipped, dispatchable at a moment’s notice (and able to get en route in that moment’s notice), that every emergency apparatus (EMS, fire, LEO) needs to have basic water rescue gear. I know WCEMS carries to flotation vests and a signle throw rope on every ambulance and DC vehicle.

What else is out there?
DJ - 10/02/10 - 22:59

Raleigh FD; every rig has a basic water rescue bag consisting of a few PFD’s and a throw bag….gotta’ knock the dust of the thing though ;D .
Silver - 10/02/10 - 23:16

There has to be more to our observations in this case. Any coastal department is going to have aquatic awareness and presumably survival skills for when water situations require PPE. How do they fight boat fires, for example? Wonder also if they are wearing float vests under their coats. (Is such a thing done, asks this landlubber?)
Legeros - 10/02/10 - 23:34

Cary FD has PFDs, helmets and throw bags on every truck.

Western Wake just purchased equipment to meet the light rescue standard and has pfds, throw bags and helmets on the 1st due rescue and engine.

This was also the first thing I noticed about this picture. We have to remember that Structural Firefighters Protective Garments, are just that… structural firefighting gear… not suitable for everything we do on the job. Wear the right gear for the task at hand.
CFP 7021 - 10/03/10 - 10:49

Moville has the basics as well on every first out piece of equipment. 4 PFDs w/ whistle; strobe; knife; 2 carabiners; 2 prusiks on each PFD, 2 throw bags; 4 helmets and gloves in each bag with one bag on each engine and ladder.
Spanky - 10/03/10 - 11:18

Great PPE discussion. Just curious, what are the PPE standards across the areas departments for other calls? Say a woods fires, power lines down, EMS calls, motor vehicle accidents, confined space rescues, trench rescues (or recoveries) and Water rescues? I know that sometimes it depends on the situation, but for the most part, what are your departments practices?
Donaldson - 10/03/10 - 22:37

I used to be a member of the RIVFD. Not sure why they are wearing turnout gear either, but the water right there is very shallow (the plane is resting on the bottom, and the photographer is on dry land). Probably because they were worried about the possibility of fuel leaking and subsequent explosion. Both boats are RIVFD owned and those are firefighters from the same department on the other boat as well. Most water rescues are handled by the Coast Guard, but FD’s and ocean rescue depts still respond, especially to accidents involving multiple people or ones near the shore.
Jason - 11/21/10 - 16:25

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