10/16/10 96 W - + 6 - 5 Cameras in Apparatus in Florida

Here's an interesting story found by firehouse.com, from WFTV.com. Orange County, Florida. Cameras in apparatus, used to monitor driving practices. Installed in 120 pieces of rolling stock. Personnel have been disciplined, and thus have questioned the legality of the cameras. (They are indeed legal.) The accompanying video story concludes with some dollars cited. The system cost about $1 million. Before the system, the county paid about $700,00 a year on property damage lawsuits. This year, they've paid $100,000. Wonder what their accident rates looked like? Read or watch the story. Discuss as desired.

This is the only way were gonna learn.
Truckie - 10/16/10 - 16:56

Or the company officer could grow a set and enforce the procedures of the department
Mike - 10/16/10 - 17:37

Maybe some local firetrucks would still be upright if this was installed.
ladder - 10/16/10 - 21:37

A responsible driver would not be afraid of this device. Holds the driver and CO accountable, and provides one helluva training aid. Got my vote
J.Boggs - 10/17/10 - 01:44

I disagree with SOP’s, SOG’s, DOI’s… whatever you want to call them… that put a certain “miles per hour” limit on emergency responses. Some roads you can barely go the speed limit without it being too dangerous and others you can do double the speed limit and still be okay. Other than that, I like the idea.
RPD - 10/17/10 - 03:23

Well lets ask our Wake EMS brothers and sisters. Skip or Olson has Wake EMS seen a reduction in accidents or speeding with the instillation of AVL which also tracks an EMS units speed?

Again I believe it comes down to the CO enforcing what he feels is a safe response.
Mike - 10/17/10 - 09:46

Hearty discussion on this on the Firehouse forums as well, http://www.firehouse.com/forums/showthre..
Legeros - 10/17/10 - 22:11

I am a fan of NFPA 1901 mandating a speedometer on the officer’s side of the rigs. Would cut down on the guesswork of what the vehicle’s speed is. Hard to hold a company officer responsible for a driver doing “excessive” speed if that person is talking on the radio, looking at pre-plans, looking on the MDC, watching for traffic, etc. BUT if there was a speedometer on their side then they would know what the speed of the vehicle is at all times. If you are going to hold me accountable, as a CO, then at least let me be informed so I can stop it before it happens.

I think another key factor in all of this is TRAINING. I don’t know about all agencies but there are many in our county that will let you behind the wheel of a rig with NO emergency response training at all. Others require an “in house” form of training, which could be learning how to drive from those that might not exactly know themselves. And don’t get me started on POV responses (a large reason you see young volunteers dying in accidents going to calls POV when they’ve only been driving a vehicle for a few years as it is). If you are an administrator of an angency I would think that response safety should be at the top of your “hot button” topic list, and you would be doing everything possible to ensure the safety of your crews and the citizens you are tasked with protecting.
CFP 7021 - 10/18/10 - 11:01

I like the idea of speedometers on the Officer’s side of the dog box. I know they have them in all Chicago rigs
Mike - 10/18/10 - 14:25

This new technology(black boxes, cameras, AVL, second speedometer,etc.) is OK; lets institute some old technology, “common sense”. Everyone; driver, CO and passengers should know(feel)when a vehicle is being driven unsafe. A large fire truck doesn’t have to be driven over the posted speed limit to be driven unsafe. Speed plays a large role in accidents but is not always the culprit. Everyone in the vehicle has a right and duty to say something.
T. Saunders - 10/18/10 - 19:37

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