02/28/13 44 W, 1 I - + 4 - 5 Wake Forest Engine 5

Here's a photo by Lee Wilson of Wake Forest Engine 5, with new lettering. The 2007 Pierce Contender was formerly Falls 212. The two departments merged last year, and the Falls fire station became Wake Forest Station 5. See more photos.

Lee Wilson photo

How does the county recognize the squad? As a special service(truck co.) or as a Engine?
PGtruckie - 03/02/13 - 09:30

E, can’t speak on the county, but the City Squad criteria is a dual-role company, with a full extrication compliment, saws for truck work, technical rescue gear (tripod, ropes, hardware) and our also have an inflatable boat with water rescue gear.

They’re dispatched on a fire as either a 1st or 2nd due Engine Company, or they will operate as a Squad Company (dual role company, used by the IC as he/she sees fit to mitigate the incident).

From what I’ve seen in the county, there’s no criteria, and it’s just a “word”. I’ve seen everything from a pick-up with a jump bag called a “squad”, to a rescue truck called a “squad”. This is where a standard county-wide dispatch protocol would prove essential (dead horse).
Silver - 03/02/13 - 11:26

It has water and a pump on it, but the pump is broken. So it just has tools with which to respond to structure fires for extra equipment and manpower. No extrication or specialty rescue capabilities.
WF - 03/02/13 - 19:55

Which brings up the question regarding Wake Forest’s squad. What makes it different than the engine which sits next to it other than the terminology?
Rescue Ranger - 03/02/13 - 19:56

@Rescue Ranger, the function of the pump would be the difference…... As “WF” stated, the pump doesn’t function as it should, thus it is a service truck for structural response. It falls in with the Ladder Company on structure fires if it is staffed.
RR5 - 03/02/13 - 21:54

This may be a dumb question, but why not just get the pump fixed??
Joe - 03/03/13 - 08:31

$$ $$ $$. Good enough answer? Plus there is ISO credit for service trucks.
Dollars and Cents - 03/03/13 - 09:32

@RR5 – Notice the time stamp. I was typing as WF was posting so I didn’t see that post until now. Just an FYI.
Rescue Ranger - 03/03/13 - 18:25

@Rescue Ranger, didn’t notice the time. My appologies.
RR5 - 03/03/13 - 21:29

I’m sorry, that is not a good enough answer Mr. Dollars and Cents. Obviously repairing a pump is expensive, but WF should have the means to come up with the dough. A bigger concern over funds is, isn’t that truck fairly new? I’m a bit surprised such a catastrophic failure even occured in the first place. Either way, I hope WF finds a way to repair the truck soon, even if they have to wait until July. Seems to be quite a waste for it to serve as an equipment truck. And yes, ISO gives credit for that, but far less than what you lose from an inoperable Engine.
Joe - 03/04/13 - 00:12

Just to clarify, the Pierce in this pic is WF Engine 5. It is the first out unit from WF Station 5, and is staffed 24/7 with part timers and volunteers. There is also a 1994 E One stationed at WF Station 5 (see pics if you click on photos link). It is designated as Squad 5 and would roll as a support unit when dispatched. It is serving the departments and communities needs right now as a support unit, much like the Ladder (which is staffed 24/7) and the Rescue (which is staffed by volunteers). WF has 4 First Out Engines staffed, as well as a Reserve Engine that is ready to go should any first out unit need repair. They will also be receiving a County Spec Tanker shortly. I hope this clears things up.
Clarification - 03/04/13 - 09:43

Clarification answered it. 1994 is not fairly new Joe.
Dollars and Cents - 03/04/13 - 17:36

So does that mean it is getting replaced next year? Given the 20 year replacement plan? Will it be replaced with something with a pump more like E5 or some other squad-esque type vehicle?

And a side note: I saw the station the other day only says “Fire Department” is that getting re-lettered along with all of the trucks or just staying generic?
Curious - 03/04/13 - 18:37

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