06/20/13 51 W - + 1 - 2 Video Tour of Baltimore City's New Pierce Tiller

Speaking of videos, here's a six-minute video tour from Pierce of a Arrow XT tiller built for Baltimore. Be honest, who doesn't love a tiller? Found via FireNews.net on Facebook.

What's the current county tillers in North Carolina, by the way?

High Point FD and Raleigh FD are the only two active tillers (I believe). I understand Wilmington FD has one on the way. RFD’s original Ladder 1/4 was based upon High Point’s (piggy-backed the spec/bid).
A.C. Rich - 06/20/13 - 23:12

Cornelius-Lemley got a TDA in 2008. And yes, Wilmington has ordered a TDA on a velocity cab
BuiesCreekFire (Web Site) - 06/21/13 - 00:53

BuiesCreekFire I have heard that y’all are looking at the possibility of a tiller for your replacement. Any truth in this?
goes2fire - 06/21/13 - 10:50

All ideas are still on the table. We are currently looking at what will provide the best access for Campbell University and the still able to get out the door for calls, with a mostly vol based fire call response, its hard to say yes to a tiller but it is still being considered. We are planning to have something in the building by 2016 if things hold true with the current master plan. We have replaced the engines to a put we feel comfortable with our fleet for years to come along with a new rescue/air/light truck for handle everyday stuff (MVAs, fires, RIT) and even a full set of high angle equipment (currently in the process of est this program and training with it, but it is in the works). We have a pretty sweet deal with Campbell now to assist with equipment and they have purchased our UTV that is set to arrive any day now (maybe we can get Lee back down to get a few shots of it in trade for lunch or something like that). So yes we are looking at an AERIAL but have not nailed down what type, brand or maybe even it’s color, just pretty much that it will be around a 100’. Hopefully we can get this better completed in the near future and have something to add to this topic.
BuiesCreekFire (Web Site) - 06/21/13 - 11:25

My volly dept will be looking at an aerial in the next 5 years. I feel strongly that a tiller is what we need to be able to navigate the tight streets in the cookie cutter neighborhoods we have. With 5000+ homes scheduled in the next few years combined with narrow streets and on street parking, a traditional stick or platform may not be able to negotiate the turns without taking out a few cars or the rear end of the rig. Some of the members don’t feel we’ll be able get enough drivers to respond a tiller since it will require two qualified drivers. We’re having a difficult time getting drivers checked out on our new tanker since we’re requiring a class b license.

We’re paid during the day and volly at night and weekends.
NotSo - 06/21/13 - 19:32

We have a that same problem with the Class B requirement, but remember that those tight streets are also going to be a problem when you have to setup any type of aerial. It’s just a game, a game of luck and good drilling of the drivers. We have the same issue with our townhomes. And good luck getting into the Meadows of Buies Creek during a party weekend, a Tahoe is hard enough, much less a ladder. It falls back to your driver for the most part, unless you are in a tight knit city area with a lot of one way streets and two sided parking, I have seen some drivers put trucks in places that cause everyone else to ripe that little bit of cloth out of the center of the seat. Atlantic Emergency has a lot of demo trucks to show and has offered to get some to us to try for a training night, I’m sure the other dealers like CW Williams, Fire Connections, etc. can do the same. This isn’t like buy a set of turnout gear, I would suggest doing a few test drives before you guys decide.
BuiesCreekFire (Web Site) - 06/21/13 - 20:20

Also, a tiller will require your drivers to upgrade to Class A drivers, I do believe, AC would know more on this.
BuiesCreekFire (Web Site) - 06/21/13 - 20:24

That is correct Buies Creek… a Classified A minimum will be required and a CDL A will also suffice – and as many know, paid employees are exempt from CDL requirements but not “Class.” In NC volunteers are exempt from “Class” and “CDL,” but it is a best practice to possess the appropriate license to remove any question. Also, and without doubt, operating the tiller is a completely new world and requires detailed training. Good luck to both of your departments on the acquisition process!
A.C. Rich - 06/21/13 - 23:43

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