04/09/07 71 W - + 10 - 11 More Talk

There's more talk on Raleigh fire calls of late, notably on fire alarms. Size-ups are being given, command is being established, and so on. If you miss the dispatch, check the talkgroup. If they're talking on an Ops channel, it's likely a fire alarm. If they're talking on a Tac channel, it's a structure fire. And if you hear additional tones and units dispatched, it's a working structure fire.

Some correspondence came out today requesting RFD companies spend the summer months getting comfortable using the NIIMS style of IC, so you will probably hear even more talking in the coming weeks. Hopefully this will only improve on our teamwork on calls. Personally, I like to hear what is going on when I’m second in on a call, and I certainly don’t mind returning the favor. Stay safe, brothers (of all genders).
Southern piper (Email) - 04/14/07 - 22:32

More information about NIMS and IC:

FEMA resource page on NIMS: http://www.fema.gov/emergency/nims/

FEMA document on NIMS (PDF): http://www.fema.gov/pdf/emergency/nims/n..

FEMA resource page on IC: http://training.fema.gov/EMIWeb/IS/ICSRe..
Legeros - 04/15/07 - 06:06

I only wonder how this will affect mutual aid responses in the county. I do not know what the use level of NIMS by county departments is.
Porter (Email) - 04/15/07 - 10:34

EMS received a memo from EMS100 the other day. Let me quote it so I don’t give any false info:

Please remember and implement the following:

The first unit on the scene of any dispatched incident, regardless of the type (with the exception of, perhaps, “inside the house” single patient medical calls), should do the following:

1. Report “on scene” verbally.

2. Give a brief “size up” to dispatch and other responding units. [on the assigned TAC channel]

3. Establish and “name” COMMAND on the TAC channel. [Commands are named geographically – DAVIE STREET COMMAND or CAPITAL BLVD COMMAND – not by
department or incident type.”

And, also, later on…

“Even if it’s not “your type” of incident — that’s the procedure. You don’t have to “stay” in command if, for example, you were first in on a house fire. As soon as the first engine arrives, give a report and “pass command” to the officer, and announce on the TAC channel [If you decide to locate your COMMAND POST somewhere other than your vehicle, then you should announce WHERE command is located also. For example, “MILLBROOK COMMAND will be on the northwest corner of the intersection on the sidewalk.”

When it’s time to pass command, on the TAC channel advise dispatch and all units that


And, further still…

“I thought that you would recall from ICS-100 that use of ICS is “the law” and not an optional thing. So, by copy of this message I am directing incorporation of the use of ICS practices and terminology on any incident that involves the response of more than a single ambulance with no co-responders. If there are more than one responding unit, ICS is a go.”

ICS is here to stay…
(and if anyone would like a copy of this e-mail, I will be happy to forward it to you.)
CJS (Email) - 04/15/07 - 12:54

Eric - 04/15/07 - 15:22

In truth, that’s what ICS is… Keep It Simple Stupid. One chain of command, people reporting to only one person, clearly defined objectives… isn’t that what we all want?
CJS (Email) - 04/15/07 - 16:28

The county units are using it.
Porter - 04/15/07 - 19:59

Such consistency in communication between agencies has been needed for the 20+ years I’ve been in Fire and EMS in Wake County. It’s fun listening to folks learn the new jargon and swim thru the process, but it’s getting better by the hour. Strong work folks.
Olson - 04/15/07 - 23:38

I agree with Olson. The more we do it, the better we get. It’s just like the 10 codes back in the day… it took a while, but we got it. We’ll get this too.
CJS (Email) - 04/15/07 - 23:56

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