01/14/08 63 W - + 24 - 9 Wake County Fire Commission Meeting, Thursday, 1/17

The next Wake County Fire Commission meeting is scheduled for this Thursday, November 17, at 7:00 PM, at the Wake EMS Training Facility, located in the lower level of the Wake County Commons Building at 4011 Carya Drive. That's off Poole Road, off I-440. Drive around to the rear. Look for a large number of sport-utility vehicles with warning lights.


I believe the correct date is January 17th.
Correction - 01/15/08 - 11:15

whats on the agenda?
question - 01/16/08 - 23:26

No agenda was receive in advance of the meeting, ergo no agenda was posted here.

Highlights from tonight’s meeting forthcoming.
Legeros - 01/17/08 - 23:20

Here are some highlights of last night’s Fire Commission meetings. Corrections and clarifications welcome.

Regular Agenda

There was a presentation on the state’s Domestic Preparedness and Readiness Regions (DPRR). These are new entities, created at the request of Homeland Security. Raleigh and Wake County reside in region 4, which is comprised of Wake, Chatham, Alamance, Orange, Durham, Person, Granville, Nash, Vance, and Warren Counties. There’s a core committee from Wake County participating in planning, and they represent public health, municipal police, sheriff’s department, municipal fire, rural fire, EMS, hospitals, emergency management, rescue, and public works.

A letter from the county attorney was presented, regarding facility and/or land ownership in cases where the county is investing a significant amount of money in construction or renovation of a fire station. This was an issue carried over from the last meeting, and the letter answered some questions (or at least reinforced answers given at the last meeting). The issues were raised at the prior meeting in regard to renovations of Bay Leaf Station #1.

The Facilities Committee (FC) chair presented a report containing several items, including a new plan for future fire station repairs and renovations and an update on dormitory renovations, and the impact of a recent fire code change that requires sprinklers in fire station structures.

Regarding future fire stations, two items were noted. Properties around Raynor Road are being examined for the southeastern Wake County fire station. There’s also a 4,000-home housing development planned in Wendell in five years. The FC sees a need for a fire station, or likely fire/police/EMS facility there. They recommend planning for buying land, and adding construction costs to the CIP. The station would be built in five years.

Regarding the evaluation of fire stations for closure, the FC developed a method for ranking stations. They then applied this ranking method to every county fire station. Five met their criteria to be evaluated for closure. One is already set to close, Western Wake #2. The remaining are Bay Leaf #3, Falls, New Hope #1, and Western Wake #1. The FC requested that the four be evaluated at the same time, notably because all four could be covered by Raleigh. The next step is for the county to talk to the Raleigh Fire Department, and see if they’re interested in contract coverage for one or more of the station areas.

The Compensation Committee chair presented a report with recommendations on funding retirement, longevity, and life insurance programs, for county fire departments that contract with the county.

The Apparatus Committee chair presented a pair of policy drafts, an administrative and small vehicle replacement policy, and a vehicle disposal policy. The latter requires departments to dispose of vehicles and apparatus within specific time frames after receiving replacement vehicles.

There was a presentation on the subject of the Fire Protection Service Tax District Long-Range Business Plan. The plan consisted of a binder containing documents including facility and staff recommendations already approved by the Fire Commission, a placeholder for an updated capital expenditures model (there were additional items approved that night), the original long-range business plan, and the compensation plan adopted by the Board of Commissioners in 2003.

The presentation resulted in a colorful and lengthy discussion about next steps. Some people thought the document was ready to present to the Board of Commissioners (BOC) in their February work session, as planned. Other people thought the document was not ready for presentation, and/or that they needed more time to review the document. A motion was made to accept the document, and proceed with plans to present same to the BOC. The committee voted, and the motion was rejected. However, it was decided that a special meeting will be held next month, as a work session to address some of the issues raised about the business plan.

As the meeting entered its third hour, it was noted that monthly meetings of the Fire Commission may need to be considered, due to the number and nature of agenda items.

The meeting schedule for the 2008 calendar year was also provided. January 17, March 20, May 1, July 17, September 18, November 20. Note that in past years, the May meeting has been rescheduled to coordinate with the county budget process.

Information Agenda

There was a presentation on Fire Protective Service Tax District Debt. It contained a lot of numbers.

There was a presentation of policy documents that relate to the appointments of county boards, commissions, committees, or authorities.

The meeting concluded shortly thereafter.
Legeros - 01/19/08 - 07:31

Is there a site/location that gives the criteria for ranking the county stations, and the criteria considered when being evaluated for closure? Additionally, is there information or copies of contractual agreements for coverage?
Wayne (Email) - 01/20/08 - 11:04

wasnt Eastern Wake 2 on that list not too long ago?
curious - 01/20/08 - 19:02

All those districts cannot be covered by Raleigh. The majority of the areas in question are non-hydranted and greater than 6 miles from another County station. The issue is more complicated than it is made out to be and requires much more research and planning. Not trying to defib the dead horse, I’m just saying it’s not as simple as the County makes it out to be.
ncff - 01/21/08 - 13:10

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