01/29/10 81 W, 1 I - + 15 - 10 Ready, Set, Snow

The snow is falling, the calls are coming, and let's all drive as safe as possible. Engine 23 was ready with chains earlier this evening, as shown below. They've already been to a working house fire on 11705 Shavenrock Place. Durham Highway Pumper 1 first on scene with fire in a garage. Engine 27 has just arrived at 1140  Blackbeard Lane. Fully involved mobile home, with New Hope also responding. Might be a busy night.

Raleigh doesn’t run the auto chain system?
BFD - 01/29/10 - 23:54

Newer pieces have them, but not all.
Silver - 01/30/10 - 00:04

The On-Spot chains will work until snow depths get to around 6” and above.
EngineDriver - 01/30/10 - 00:36

On-spot chains are recommended for snow depths of 6” and BELOW. When snow is over 6”, traditional tire chains should be used.
Not to be picky, but - 01/30/10 - 07:17

The following two statements are both correct:

“The On-Spot chains will work until snow depths get to around 6 and above.”
“On-spot chains are recommended for snow depths of 6 and BELOW.”

Language is amazing. Or perhaps my comment is a commentary on comprehension. Watch when Mikey blogs something. You’ll see the post slightly corrected a couple times, usually within the first few minutes. That’s because I wasn’t reading something close enough. Communication, man. Can be tough!

Thanks as always for comments.
Legeros - 01/30/10 - 08:56

(This blog is as much about language and communication as it is about the fire service. How to stay something. What happens when you say something one way, versus another. How people react to what you say. How people comprehend what you say. What particular words and phrases do readers react to? Etcetera.)
Legeros - 01/30/10 - 09:10

Or, perhaps, people should leave well enough alone and stop trying to “one-up” others as you see here. “EngineDriver” stated a fact, then some loser thought it would be funny to make a dig at his sentence structure. What it comes down to is the “corrector” couldn’t decipher a sentence and tell that “EngineDriver” was saying the same thing all along.
Leave it alone - 01/30/10 - 15:26

Seeing as how we didn’t really get above 6”, how have the on-spot chains been working for your agencies? My only experience has been in minimal snow or greater than 12” so we weren’t really able to use them.
Mike - 01/30/10 - 18:29

Seems like dem der metal chains will work in up to half a foot or less to get yer truck down yonder!
jim bo - 01/30/10 - 18:50

But does the accuracy of your statement match the prior two?? Think carefully, we’ll have a test on this tomorrow…
Legeros - 01/30/10 - 18:58

At Engine 2 for 12 hours today. The on-spot system has performed well.
Silver - 01/30/10 - 19:15

On-spot chains did fine when used on E-20 yesterday.
gen3fire - 01/31/10 - 10:29

Good tool for the snow we see here. Better than “wrap-around” chains. Heck, many folks don’t even know how to correctly apply the old style chains, so it’s good that the “on-spots” and “insta-chains” are available. Be careful though… 30-35mph max.
A.C. Rich - 01/31/10 - 14:34

The on spot chains on Engine 12 did not seem to work very well. It appeared that the chains would only go under the inside tire about one to two inches. This was my first time dealing with these chains. Can anyone advise?
Rob Mitchell - 02/02/10 - 16:13

Cap’,check out http://www.onspot.com,, go to videos, and look at the “how it works” video. Might answer your question….
Silver - 02/02/10 - 17:14

Rob – Your set is probably adjusted wrong. The ones on E-8 worked well for us. We threw one of the “wrap-around” chains early Sun morning (with some minor damage to the wheel well); and had to revert to using the on-spots.
A.C. Rich - 02/02/10 - 17:26

Pretty obvious, but some forget; don’t “retract” the on-spots when stopped, because you run the risk of ripping one of the chains out from the system.
Silver - 02/02/10 - 17:39

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