04/06/10 176 W, 1 I - + 4 - 13 Yesterday's House Fire in Apex

Below is an aerial photo from WTVD of yesterday's major house fire at 314 Grassy Point Road in Apex. The two-story dwelling with 3,412 square-feet was well-involved on arrival, with extension to the homes on either side of the structure. Dispatched about 3:00 p.m. Units on scene included Apex L3, L4, E2, R1, B1, C5, C1; Holly Springs E3; Swift Creek E3; Fairview E3, E8; EMS 41, D1, T1.

Some responded as they cleared from a major woods fire on O'Kelly Chapel Road at Highway 55. Several Wake and Durham county units worked that one, which was reported after 1:00 p.m. The forestry service even sent a spotter plane, along with plow and brush units. Hot, dry, and nasty with all that pollen. Legeros took some photos of the aftermath.

And then this morning, Apex is still on the scene of another fire, at what sounds like a transformer an electrical substation. They've deployed their foam trailer, and have other companies on scene. We'll get more information on that one, later.

WTVD photo

Hey Mike… what the crap is a NC Forestry Service “spotter plan?” I know when you blog, you get excited…
CJS (Email) - 04/06/10 - 06:39

Fairview E1 responded not E3, Holly Springs E1 also responded, also Morrisville E2 and Fuquay E5 that I heard get paged out to go to Apex for coverage.
079 - 04/06/10 - 10:39

Apex C6, Engine 1,Swift Creek Battalion 27, and some fairview chiefs responded as well
[AFDExplorer] - 04/06/10 - 15:08

This was a call that it was fortunate to have both Aerials first in on. The devices were put into quick operation on fire attack and exposure protection on neighboring houses. With the size of the street and close neighborhood if an Engine had been first in even leaving front for aerial would have been difficult.
My opinion only
Apex Batt Chief - 04/06/10 - 21:33

Train, train, train on bread & butter ops and a focus on true truck work will get engine guys to understand the reasoning behind leaving room in the front for the ladder (can add hose, can’t add ladder). A ladder company and its’ properly trained crew is an offensive weapon when used correctly, being in position to flow is just one piece of the puzzle. Just my opinion as well….
Silver - 04/07/10 - 01:03

On calls in Apex that both a ladder and engine are dispatched, does the ladder roll first?

Is it time in this world to start letting ladders roll ahead of engines? Or would such heresy just be utterly rejected?
Legeros - 04/07/10 - 07:25

Good point Silver! A well trained ladder co. is a huge force multiplier on the fireground! And as noted in this and several different threads over time-train! We Eng. Co. folks need to keep in the forefront of our planning ladder access and placement. Their skills are much needed, and you never know when you might need the big water. As for ladders rolling first-kind of difficult to accomplish when one ladder rolls with 4 or 5 different companies. I personally think its more of a training issue with the company officers-both Capt. and Lt. So there’s one more opinion…
goose - 04/07/10 - 08:54

I know in Apex at station 3 the ladder company there is the only truck staffed-Ladder 3. At station 1 and 2 the engine is staffed and at station 4 the engine and ladder are both staffed.
079 - 04/07/10 - 10:07

@ Legeros; I know in the older days when I was an officer there, the paid guys would roll an engine then the old ladder (now sold to a dept. at the beach) would go with vollies. The paid guys would lay-in if they saw they had a job. This was a different time in the department though, and if memory serves correct it was when we were split. Chief Reavis, who was the vollie Chief, was from Prince William, VA which runs aggressive truck companies and he wanted that here as well.

@079; True, but someone has to perform truck ops. For smaller departments (and combos), if it’s a matter of training your entire membership, then saying the 2nd due company will perform truck work, regardless if they’re an engine, ladder or rescue, then so be it. But, someone has to do the truck work!!
Silver - 04/08/10 - 09:48

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