04/06/10 131 W - + 2 - 5 Council Appoints Task Force To Study Lightner Safety Center Issues

Mayor Charles Meeker and three other Raleigh City Council members will serve on a special task force to study issues related to the proposed Clarence E. Lightner Public Center. The council voted 7-1 today to establish the task force, which is charged with developing a list of items for an independent consultant to study regarding the public safety center, such as possible sites, design, cost savings, and functionality and organization of the facility. Council members voted to establish the special task force after City Manager Russell Allen presented an alternate funding plan for the Clarence E. Lightner Public Safety Center at today’s meeting. The proposal would not raise the City’s property tax rate. Read entire press release.

would there actually be a fire station on the ground floor of the building and if so how many bays would it have.
crs - 04/06/10 - 20:45

I would vote for that…it makes only sense station 1 and 3 need to be replaced. And maybe the fire department can have more than one floor that way,
Concerned Raleigh Citizen - 04/06/10 - 21:36

Wouldn’t doubt if that happened for an engine and L-4, because the Central Firehouse sits on a hot piece of land. I could see it being used as a way to offset some funds, selling the Central Firehouse property that is.

I do, however, think the days of two engine companies in a house are going to be a thing of the past. I had heard a few months back that Engine 3 would eventually be relocated to someplace closer to MLK Blvd. Who knows how many years that will be…
Silver - 04/06/10 - 23:18

The City Council needs to get the cost per square foot down to reasonable levels to even consider moving forward. The County building is in the $170 per sq ft range and the Raleigh plan was well over $400 per sq ft. Be realistic and smart with our tax dollars, don’t waste them on frivolous expenses! and it doesn’t sound like a good idea to combine all of our public safety resources in one building…
taxpayer - 04/07/10 - 00:15

The original concept of the public safety center included a fire station on the ground floor, if memory serves. Going even farther back, to the early 1990s, Fire Chief Sherman Pickard once proposed combining Station 1 and 3 (along with Station 5 and 6) to cost-effective effect. Nobody reacted favorably to that one. I helped the cause with a letter to the editor (or maybe it was to City Council?) during the fray.

As for Central Station and its property value therein, I have always heard that that particular parcel is perhaps too small (with required setbacks) for effective commercial development. Now, add the adjoining building, which is a section of old Union Station (built 1890), and then you’ve got a really prime piece of real state. About that building: http://www.legeros.com/ralwake/photos/we..
Legeros - 04/07/10 - 07:22

Make it a school and a race issue and it will pass…
former wake co. resident - 04/08/10 - 23:16

The present plans do not have any apparatus bays. As for costs, Lightner was purpose designed to meet critical engineering and redundancy standards that reflect the need for security, stability, and redundancy required for the 9-1-1 center, EOC, and the City of Raleigh data center. Check the tabs on new fire station construction and see what you get. Comparing different buildings without a complete understanding of the project scope and specifications is like saying that one department paid ten times more for their new rig than their neighbor’s without mentioning that one was a quint and the other a brush truck.
RWECC - 04/17/10 - 10:09

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