01/25/13 164 W - + 3 - 3 UPDATED: Run Numbers For 2012

Wake County Fire Departments
Apex       2,386      Also 3,388 runs.
Bay Leaf   906   *
Durham Highway   704    
Eastern Wake   1,445   *
Fairview   1,331    
Falls   143   Merged with Wake Forest during year.
Fuquay-Varina   3,438    
Garner   4,847    
Hopkins   424   *
Holly Springs   1,444    
Knightdale   1,139   *
Morrisville   1,761   *
New Hope   1,690    
Raleigh   36,582   Also 53,607 runs. More below.
Raleigh-Durham Airport   1,464    
Rolesville   716   *
Stony Hill   460   *
Swift Creek   630   *
Wake Forest   2,536    
Wendell   1,726   *
Western Wake   672   *
Zebulon   1,471   *

* Source is Wake County Fire Services.

Wake County EMS

Raleigh Fire Department Busiest Units

Busiest Engines
E3 - 2,547
E12 - 2,433
E1 - 2,151
E11 - 2,096
E15 - 1,967
     Busiest Ladders
L4 - 2,347
L2 - 1,726
L3 - 957
     Busiest Rescue
R2 - 788

New Hope Fire - 01/21/13 - 10:20

I’d like to see how many times county departments like New Hope, Western Wake, etc. went into the city and were cancelled. I hope the new Fire Services Director for Wake can straighten the mess going on around here and overhaul the entire county service. Still running like it is 1988. Stations need to be moved to better fit their districts and offer better service to THEIR DISTRICT. Plenty of annexations have taken place to justify it. Not trying to hurt feelings but it needs to be done.
AutoAid - 01/21/13 - 12:00

Wake Forest Fire ran a total of 2536
Swiman - 01/21/13 - 12:04

Double A, you’ve outlined your perception of a problem. What would be your ideas for solutions? Or, if you prefer, what does the “right sized” or “right configured” system look like, that would function more optimally as you see it? Might be better to move this particular discussion over to the future of the fire service thread, from the other day.
Legeros - 01/21/13 - 12:51

Fuquay-Varina – 3438
Fuquay-Varina - 01/21/13 - 14:36

Sorry Mike, I just thought a quick reply to AutoAid was needed to help answer his or her question.

If this helps Western Wake rarely gets cancelled when responding into the city. This is because the area that we respond to is part of the closet unit dispatch and we respond into the city as the closest unit. Western Wake does not have any contract area with Raleigh and all of our calls into the city are based on a closest unit response. So I’m not sure what AutoAid is looking for in a reply since Western Wake for the most part is not cancelled on calls into the city because we are usually the first unit on scene.

I can not speak for New Hope FD since Iím not familiar with their response area, but I do believe that they also have a large closet unit response area because of their Station location inside the city limits of Raleigh.

And yes no system is perfect, but looking back at how things were 10 or 15 years ago; I would say for the most part Wake County / Raleigh dispatching issues are much improved from years past.
WWFR - 01/21/13 - 15:12

Durham Highway 704
DHFD (Web Site) - 01/21/13 - 16:00

Garner had 4847 incidents. Garner Eng 3 had 1716 runs, and if I had to guess I would say that Eng 1 had probably 1900 runs.
Mike - 01/22/13 - 15:06

FV station 1 ran just over 2100, station 2 just over 800, and station 3 502.
FVFD - 01/22/13 - 22:25

Wake County EMS had 84,867 runs. 62,428 were transported to the hospital. Thanks to all the fire agencies for there assistance on the vast majority of those runs.
Olson - 01/23/13 - 00:55

Would be nice to see the remainder of the “County” depts send in their run totals for 2012, also. Would provide a really accurate picture of total activity county-wide.
Tim B - 01/24/13 - 11:12

Fairview was around 1,320. Don’t have the exact number.
FF - 01/24/13 - 16:01

No offense guys, but most of the “County” firemen don’t visit this site anymore. I know a lot of guys that came for the pics but they have dwindled lately. With the site centered around Raleigh so much they have drifted else where. I’m surprised this many run numbers have come in.
BTW - 01/24/13 - 23:37

@ BTW You are correct about the lack of visits from “County Firemen”, Ive asked several honest questions and they not get published, due to to unknown reasons, but it is what it is i suppose
JDH - 01/25/13 - 10:11

Seems to me that ever since the “questioning” of another FDs (WFFD) tactics came about, and then RFD did those same tactics, some questions were asked as to how it was ok for RFD to do it, when not so much for WFFD
JDH - 01/25/13 - 15:27

Not sure of exact number but Knightdale ran around 1250 for the year
kfd - 01/25/13 - 16:23

Mike, I think Cary’s numbers were close to 7800-7900 or so. Find out exact numbers when I return to work.
Fire1983 - 01/26/13 - 12:16

RDU Fire-Rescue had 1464
Russell Stanley - 01/26/13 - 13:50

It would be interesting to see what each department cost for each call run. Meaning total budget divided by number of calls run. Then to see another one where total budget divided by total population served to see which departments are more economical for the citizens. Obviously the numbers will be skewed because of staffing models but it would be an interesting thought
ncnjems - 01/26/13 - 15:56

New Bern 1,068
NBFRFF - 01/26/13 - 17:19

Morrisville call number is a little higher. Closer to 1800, so not really all that much different. I think a better representation of efficiency is not to divide the budget by population but to divide budget by total tax value of area protected. Morrisville has a relatively small population but a high tax value including the RTP area and county land that they cover. I believe it’s forth highest in tax value, but probably eighth in population.

In addition to its own corporate limits and contracted area, Morrisville provides a LOT of automatic aid to Durham City, Durham County, Cary, RDU, and Apex. You would have to remove any calls that were duplicates except where you were providing closet station, not just finishing a run card for a certain call type.

Also, not every municipality has the same dedication to fire protection. Since Morrisville is accredited and is trying to reduce/improve its ISO rating from a 3 to a 2 or possibly a 1, they invest a lot into their fire department. But it is an interesting concept to calculate. Would be interesting if some could quantify it.
Spanky - 01/27/13 - 23:17

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