02/07/13 90 W, 1 I - + 1 - 4 Hot Shot From Hill Street

WRAL has posted a couple photos from this morning's house fire on Hill Street. Three members of Rescue 1 are pictured in this still shot. Fourteen (!) people were displaced by the 2:13 a.m. fire at 320 Hill Street. Engine 7 arrived with heavy fire coming from the basement of one-story, wood-frame, single-family dwelling. With 1,377 square-feet, built 1983. Controlled 2:39 a.m. Cause under investigation. Units on scene included E7, E3, E13, E12, L4, L2, R1, SQ15, A1, B2, B5, C20, C401, C420. Got that? Plus EMS response.

WRAL photo

5 engines (squad included), 2 ladders and a 5 man rescue seems like alot of equipment for a 1400ft house but I would rather there be to many people than not enough. With Minimum staffing there were roughly 29 firefighters there from working fire dispatch not including chiefs and special resources. Use to be, maybe 18 or 19 people including chiefs at the same type fire when I started with the department.
gen3fire - 02/07/13 - 09:15

And responses aren’t adjusted for size. You’re particularly well equipped for 2400 and 3400 square-foot homes.
Legeros - 02/07/13 - 09:21

14 people displaced? I’m going with it being a boarding house and 2 stories if it had a basement.
Mike - 02/07/13 - 10:08

Plenty of resources from jump-street; the harsh reality that its’ been proven that it will take, what 14 members to rescue one of our own if something bad happens (see Brett Tarver incident, Phoenix). This could have been one of those fires you hear on the news; “14 Perish From Boarding House Fire”, since it ended up being a boarding house of sorts.

Awesome job you guys….
Silver - 02/07/13 - 10:09

It’s funny how some give RFD a pat on the back for putting that much manpower on the scene, but when County departments roll 7 or 8 apparatus it’s criticized. Resources are what saves lives and keeps us safe, so don’t knock your brothers that are out there doing the same job. We are all on the same team. Good job guys. FTM-PTB
ncff - 02/07/13 - 11:52

How were the rescue and squad used on this fire?
Mike - 02/07/13 - 14:42

The Rescue completed searches in the 1st floor and basement. The Squad was tasked with a hot overhaul in the basement extinguishing several areas of hidden fire.
Brandon - 02/07/13 - 17:12

Make that 6 engines. E10 was special called for “relief”.
Rescue Ranger - 02/07/13 - 20:22

I listened to the WF that happened this morning and it sounded like having the number of units sent on the initial dispatch was a real benefit, especially since there was a report of multiple people trapped. One honest question though, have there been any changes to fill-in policy or to smaller responses during periods of high activity? It seems like one of our Summer thunderstorms that sparks a working fire and causes a couple of accidents could really wipe out resources on an entire side of the city. Not trying to be critical, but this morning it sounded like there was a fire alarm dispatched where the first arriving engine would have had a long response time and it popped the question into my mind.
Chris - 02/08/13 - 10:48

the 2nd ladder and squad or rescue were sent b/c this was put into CAD that it was an apartment fire. So normally for a house fire, you won’t get the amount of apparatus that was sent to this fire.
lee - 02/09/13 - 15:03

Lee, actually that is not correct. The run card for any building fire is 4 engines, 2 ladders, 1 squad or heavy rescue, and a BC.
Foghorn Leghorn - 02/09/13 - 22:19

@Legeros Correct!

If it’s a working fire (single occupancy) and Rescue wasn’t on the initial, it will go on the “working fire dispatch”. For a single occupancy, if Rescue IS on the initial, a Squad won’t be sent if it’s a worker. This also ties in with ECC being able to upgrade calls to “workers” if they receive multiple calls, or further info, etc.

Commericlal and multi-occupancy gets a Squad and Rescue with two BC’s on the initial. Plenty of resources early….
Silver - 02/10/13 - 14:34

This fire was actually dispatched as a working fire assignment as the units listed at the top of this page were all on the initial dispatch.
Rescue Ranger - 02/10/13 - 17:28

In speaking directly with the ECC member who took the call and dispatched it, they went ahead and dispatched it as a “multi occupancy” and “working fire” due to amount of calls and facts supporting it was more than just a single occupancy.
Silver - 02/10/13 - 21:47

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